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REVENGE and GREED FOR MORE PROFITS by those in power (Cheney’s Halliburton company made BILLIONS of dollars in profit) motivated the war on innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet, the corporate press is not touching this subject with a barge pole and as a result, most Americans don’t get to hear about these crimes.
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Francis Curran Have we won yet? Time for a truce?
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Jenn Chandler HAHAHA a truce? It’s nice in theory but it will never happen so long as someone makes a profit from war.
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Jenn Chandler As long as people believe the false flag attacks and allows the corporate owned media lies to use peoples emotions against them….none of this will stop. There will continue to be events to justify killings for profit and as a result, keep a divide in humanity. The only way to put an end to these atrocities is to come together as humans regardless of race, religion, national origins, or political affiliations.
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Jenn Chandler Those who support the divide, you will be taking a knee and pledging your allegiance to the cronies in control who will continue keeping you enslaved. They will continue using you until you are nothing but a shell of your former self. The rest of us would rather die on our feet than ever take a knee.
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Marsha Russell Jenn Chandler, I agree with you but we must also teach our children not to enlist at all.
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Jenn Chandler I agree with you 100% Marsha. However, there will come a time that the draft will return if not enough enlist to fulfill the headcount for the agenda. If we can figure out a way to take away the power or control of the 1% who control our global governments and profit off of war and then clean house in the governmental departments…..perhaps then we can start to see a change but it will require people to turn off their TV’s, stop supporting group divisions, become more self reliant, and to help humanity for the betterment of the human race.
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Jenn Chandler If we can’t do that much, our children, grand children, and generations after will suffer as a result. What I listed are only a few small ways to starve the beast. We have to be willing to make the greatest of sacrifices starting with allowing the collapse of the monetary system. If we are more self reliant and stop paying corporations for all that we have….perhaps have a veggie garden, encourage neighbors to also start a garden, grow some fruit trees, perhaps a few chickens (they will thrive on kitchen scraps–mine like onions but I feed them seed and grain as well), sew our own clothes and stop supporting someone’s idea of style, get items repaired instead of throwing them out and buying new, perhaps stop buying what we don’t need…..this could be a step in the right direction.
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ABel AShes Removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan actually didn’t require any justification other than the human rights abuses committed by the Taliban. But the purpose of the 9/11 attacks according to Al Qaeda’s own statements was to get America to react in order to bankrupt the USA, divide the USA population with controversy, and to get Americans onto battlefields in the “Islamic world” where we could be fought and killed directly.
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Jenn Chandler Who was the Al Qaeda leader? Oh that’s right. It was Osama Bin Laden. He was a CIA asset that went by the name Tim Osman. There are also bogus video’s of him that were shown on the mainstream media news. The Bush family and Bin Laden family were friends and partners in the oil business. The interesting bit is on Sept. 12th, during the flight freeze, a plane left for Saudi. Know who was on it? The Bin Laden’s. Hmmm… can we believe everything we hear in the corporate owned mainstream media? I’m pretty sure, that’s a no. Also, the Taliban… while they were in control, the heroin trade was almost dead in that part of the world. Did they violate human rights? Perhaps we should ask about how Gaddafi violated human rights…..probably about the same. Time to turn off the idiot box.
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ABel AShes Ex-FBI conman Ted Gunderson who claims that Satanists run the world is behind the completely false “Tim Osman”/Osama Bin laden rumor. Osama Bin laden never had anything to do with the CIA. He was as anti-USA (and deeply religious) before he co-created Al Qaeda, even going back to his teenage years in Saudi Arabia as he was on the day he died (unless we are going to call all of the people who knew him then, from his teachers to childhood freinds to family members liars). Yes the Bin Laden family is one of the richest and most powerful families in saudi Arabia to this day and a very large family thanks to the family patriarch having multiple wives and multiple children. Osama did not grow up with his father but with his mother who was divorced from his father. He was always the queit conservative religious one and did not know his brothers and sisters very well, not living in the same household as them and only seeing them a few times per year. He did idolize his father and it is partly due to this fact that he studied structural engineering. Osama, rather than spend his inheritance lavishly as most of his family did chose to spend it funding holy warriors in the fight against the Soviets. He was a funder of primarily non-Afghan Islamic fighters and only fought in one actual battle himself. He went to Pakistan and Afghanistan to give away his money to jihadists opposed to both the “infidels” of the USSR and the “crusaders” of the USA. He never worked for the CIA. he did work with and under Abdullah Azzam who was an extremely anti-American Palestinian Qutbist intellectual turned jihadist leader. When Azzam was blown up in his own car, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri turned what was left of Azzam’s group into Al Qaeda. The funny thing about your pointing out that Bin Laden family members were flown out of the country (to protect them from retaliation and because they probably had nothing to do with Al Qaeda or the 9/11 attacks….mixed with the usual kissing Saudi ass that Washington has been doing since the founding of the Kingdom in the mid-40s)…is that the reason we know about it is that IT WAS reported in the “corporate owned mainstream media”.
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Jenn Chandler So a conman says it’s a rumor and you take the word of a conman? HAHA I guess you also believe he was killed by seal team 6 in May 2011? HAHA yeah ok, I did my homework….it seems you have a cherry picked c/p method you’re using.
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ABel AShes Ted Gunderson is the originator of the rumor.
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Jenn Chandler Oh I see, he said the rumor he started was true?
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Jenn Chandler Listen, Hillary Clinton wont admit to Benghazi but had no problem admitting in many interviews that our government created Al Qaeda. Perhaps you should take a stroll on Youtube and find it.
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ABel AShes Yes, Ted Gunderson is the one who started the lie that Osama Bin Laden had an alias “Tim Osman”. The reason you heard that rumor is that he made that claim years ago and the rumor spread.
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Jenn Chandler Where has he admitted that he lied about it to begin with? Could he not be another government patsy who took a fall for the greater lie?
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ABel AShes Our government “created” Al Qaeda in a broad abstract sense perhaps, as in we supported Islamic exteremists in Afghanistan, but there never was any relationship between the USA and Al Qaeda.
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ABel AShes No, why do you keep thinking he admitted that it was a lie. He is still lying about it to this day. he is a fucking lunatic. he thinks that Satanists run the world.
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Jenn Chandler Then how do you know it’s a lie if he didn’t admit to telling one? HAHAHA do you know nothing about the Rothschilds? They have been known Satanists for ages and yes they control the world banking cartel so the man seems to know what he’s talking about. You seem to suffer Normalcy Bias, I can’t fault you for that…..so many suffer from this condition.
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ABel AShes Okay…I don’t have time to waste on childish dungeons and dragons fantasy bullshit. You are an incredibly naive and stupid person controlled by a quite evil agenda.
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Jenn Chandler People who have no true argument or are able to hold real discussion resort to name calling.
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ABel AShes Stupid isn’t a name. It is adjective that accurately describes a person who is mentally challenged enought to write something as foolish and hallucinatory as ” Then how do you know it’s a lie if he didn’t admit to telling one? HAHAHA do you know nothing about the Rothschilds? They have been known Satanists for ages and yes they control the world banking cartel so the man seems to know what he’s talking about. You seem to suffer Normalcy Bias, I can’t fault you for that…..so many suffer from this condition.”…and not be joking.
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Jenn Chandler Oh excuse me then….an attack on my personality and character……certain knowledge etc. Is that better or must I resort to going to your level and turning a discussion into a personal attack?
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Jenn Chandler c/p my comments back with no retort is not an argument nor a discussion.
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Jenn Chandler Just say you disagree with me and move along or continue with a discussion and be civil.
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ABel AShes It’s not about your personality. You might have a lovely sense of humor but you believe things that are riduculous and have no basis in factual relality…including Islam.
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ABel AShes I laugh when Muslims spout their ignorant bullshit claiming that “Zionists” are behind everything bad that happens in the world. If they would bother to read the Qu’ran or learn anything factual about their religion they would know that Mohammed copied most of Sharia Law from Judaic Law. The Jews were stoning people to death for stupid reasons in the name of the “one true god” long before Mohammed was allegedly born. Mohammed declared himself to be the final prophet in a lineage of prophets that begins in the Old Testament. Mohammed’s brand of “Zionism” is much worse than the Jewish version though. Actual Zionism merely demands a “homeland” for Jews in one small place on the planet. Mohammed and Islam demand that the whole world belong to them and their god. Which is the bigger threat?
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And if they deny you, [O Muhammad] – so, before them, did the people of Noah and ‘Aad and Thamud deny [their prophets],
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And the people of Abraham and the people of Lot
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And the inhabitants of Madyan. And Moses was denied, so I prolonged enjoyment for the disbelievers; then I seized them, and how [terrible] was My reproach.
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And how many a city did We destroy while it was committing wrong – so it is [now] fallen into ruin – and [how many] an abandoned well and [how many] a lofty palace.
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ABel AShes Here’s a conspiracy to take over the world and impose an evil ideology: https://www.facebook.com/IslamiKhilafah/photos/a.531522386862167.134884.531072666907139/694861360528268/?type=1&relevant_count=1
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Jenn Chandler Oh I get it, it’s because I’m a Muslim. HAHAHA….thank you so much for proving my point. In 610AD there was no such thing as zionism. There was no state of Israel. Zionism is a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann. All you have is Islamophobic propaganda.
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Jenn Chandler So now I fully get where you’re coming from. Thanks for that insight.
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Jenn Chandler So if you say the sky is green and I say it’s blue….you will call me stupid because I don’t agree with you and because I’m a Muslim. Nice!
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ABel AShes I am fully aware of the history of Zionism. We could discuss the Lehi Zionist terrorists bombing innocent civilians and the 1929 Hebron massacre and how Palestinians are actually at least partially descended from the Jews of The Bible (proven by genetic testing). Or how almost 30% of Israelis are Palestinian “Arabs” (culturally more than ethnically) and most of them are Sunni Muslims. How Israeli is not a secular state or a purely Jewish state but something more comparable to Lebanon at least in terms of family law. It is huge injustice that there is no secular family court but instead Talmudic family courts for Jews, Sharia courts for Muslims, Biblical courts for Christians, as well as Druze courts….these are facts….
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ABel AShes claiming that the Rothschilds worshipped Satan is an idiotic conspiracy theory with zero evidence behind it whatsoever.
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ABel AShes So the Koran, the Hadiths, The Bible, and the propaganda featured on Muslims webpages such the one I link to here are all “Islamophobic propaganda?”: https://www.facebook.com/IslamiKhilafah?ref=stream

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ABel AShes I used “Zionism” as a metaphor, hence the quotation marks to make the point that planning to seize control of one small part of the world is less of a problem for the rest of us than planning to conquer the entirety of the world and to make the point that Mohammed simply copied much of the mandated barbarity against women, slaves, infidels, apostates, nonbelievers, homosexuals, pagans from the Old Testament scriptures and mixed in some influences from Christianity, Zoroastrianism, and pre-Islamic “pagan” Arab customs and culture. For instance Ramadan predates Islam as does the worship at the Kabbah which was a pre-Islamic “pagan” shrine. Just like the Jews copied from Zoroastrianism, Egyptian and Nubian beliefs, and beliefs that originated with the Hindu, the Christians and Muslims copied from the Jews and unfortunately evil and idiotic concepts like an all knowing, all seeing, all powerful god who allows and/or perpetuates genocide, infanticide, and natural disasters was the central theme, along with moronic and delusional ideas like “Satan”, “Hell”, “Heaven” or “Paradise”, and “afterlife”, divine revelation, and the desire to see mankind subjugated under this evil and absurd nonsense. Then along came a convicted conman named Joesph Smith who rewrote parts of the Koran and Bible and called it “The Book of Mormon”.
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What will happen if all the Muslim majority areas on this planet came together to form one single unit?

Has this question ever crossed your mind?

Take a look. These stats will blow your mind.

How much area will this Islamic State cover?
What will be the capital of the Islamic State?
Which cities will be considered to be the largest cities of the Islamic State?
What will be our GDP?

Just Imagine dear brothers and sisters. Just Imagine.
Photo: What will happen if all the Muslim majority areas on this planet came together to form one single unit?

Has this question ever crossed your mind?

Take a look. These stats will blow your mind.

How much area will this Islamic State cover?
What will be the capital of the Islamic State?
Which cities will be considered to be the largest cities of the Islamic State?
What will be our GDP?

Just Imagine dear brothers and sisters. Just Imagine.

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